Results: This is about the carrot or stick approach to climate change. We can do the right thing because, as good citizens, it makes sense or we can do the right thing as obedient citizens because it is the law and we might be caught and punished. Our choice.
Published on 01/17/2024
I tend to obey the law, even laws I don't really believe in. For example, I obey the speed limit even when traffic is light and the speed limit is low. I have an app on my phone from my auto insurer that monitors my driving speed, smoothness and focus and gives me a 14% discount as a good driver. This is the carrot approach. The local police department has stealth cars hiding behind bushes with photo radar even when traffic is light and the speed limit is low. This is the stick approach. I accept one and resent the other. I feel the same way about climate change.
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Here are some approaches to climate change many of us have adopted. Which have you accepted as being common sense, not because the government or other authority said so?
I have the most energy efficient vehicle I can afford because it saves me money.
19%
428 votes
I use the least amount of electricity, water and other utilities I can because it saves me money.
49%
1069 votes
I plan my trips in my vehicle to be efficient and not waste gas because it saves me money
35%
765 votes
I maintain my vehicle, maintain tire pressures, avoid idling as much as possible and anything else I can think of because it saves me money.
44%
960 votes
My home is as energy efficient as I can afford to make it because it saves me money.
37%
806 votes
Other (please specify)
1%
27 votes
Not Applicable
26%
574 votes
- No - I never qualify or have enough of my own money.
- nope
- N/A
| Other Answers | Percentage | Votes |
|---|---|---|
| 0.22% | 9 | |
| I do what I have to do to keep a roof over my head, pay my bills. ........Unless the Gov charge the real polluter and help me financially to recycle.....I say...move to India where the climate change policies and scam don't exist. | 0.02% | 1 |
| I repurpose, recycle, and am cautious about purchases to save money and resources. | 0.02% | 1 |
| recycle, compost | 0.02% | 1 |
| I compost and reduce the amount of garbage I produce | 0.02% | 1 |
| Congratulations, you will be accepted as a an ideal citizen in the new population zone. | 0.02% | 1 |
| I grow my own veggies so don't contribute to tin can production | 0.02% | 1 |
| Insulate roof | 0.02% | 1 |
| none of the above as climate change is a democratic scam for money, power, control | 0.02% | 1 |
| I recycle | 0.02% | 1 |
| I compost and recycle | 0.02% | 1 |
| It's called weather it is supposed to change, if any of this was real, they would be embracing Nuclear. | 0.02% | 1 |
| I drink filtered water from my glass water bottle and grow some of my own food. | 0.02% | 1 |
| I do many of these but not because it saves me money | 0.02% | 1 |
| I do what I want. NO REGRETS water is renewable we will never have water shortage etc... | 0.02% | 1 |
| This week, WEF members are causing global warming by attending the Davos conference | 0.02% | 1 |
| I use what I have got because it saves me money buying something else! | 0.02% | 1 |
| I recycle, don't idle my car unless at a traffic light, and limit utilities whenever not needed. This is all common sense for the environment. Not about saving money. | 0.02% | 1 |
| Adopt smarthome technology to manage your power usage | 0.02% | 1 |
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While many of us reduce our carbon footprint because it makes sense economically as well as for other reasons, governments are adopting a big stick approach to force some of their measures on us even if it doesn't make sense. Do we not have the right to make these decisions without government coercion? Which of the following measures do you think are necessary, justified and/or acceptable?
As of 2030 (proposed in Canada) new cars cannot be gas or diesel powered
12%
273 votes
As of 2030 (proposed in Canada) power generation must be carbon neutral
18%
397 votes
All new residential buildings (proposed in Canada) will be heated by electricity and not natural gas.
18%
405 votes
A carbon tax will put a price on carbon pollution starting at $20 per tonne in 2019 and rising to $170 in 2030 (this has been inflationary).
15%
322 votes
Many more far reaching intrusions into the lives of Canadian citizens are outlined in the following report and the US will have something similar : https://www.canada.ca/en/services/environment/weather/climatechange/climate-plan/climate-plan-overview/emissions-reduction-2030.html
9%
188 votes
Other (please specify)
3%
58 votes
Not Applicable
59%
1300 votes
- They will up the cost of everything - we will have to stay home - that will help the planet.
- It will drive the cost of living up just like every other policy from the Biden Administrations.
- They'll skyrocket even higher, and lest they forget, why do they think they have complete power over us and our will...we elect/impeach them...right?!!!
| Other Answers | Percentage | Votes |
|---|---|---|
| 0.85% | 14 | |
| None | 0.37% | 6 |
| none of the above | 0.12% | 2 |
| None of these are acceptable | 0.12% | 2 |
| none of them | 0.12% | 2 |
| All of those are bad ideas. | 0.06% | 1 |
| None of this sounds acceptable to me. | 0.06% | 1 |
| None of these are acceptable. | 0.06% | 1 |
| n o n e | 0.06% | 1 |
| LIVE IN USA | 0.06% | 1 |
| I recycle | 0.06% | 1 |
| This is going way to far we want more proof on climate change | 0.06% | 1 |
| It's funny that this is targeted to the citizens, when, I believe, it should start with manufacturing companies, and the rich and their personal planes, etc. | 0.06% | 1 |
| The money gained via the Carbon Tax should be set aside and directed toward alternate forms of energy production | 0.06% | 1 |
| all of the above are unacceptable | 0.06% | 1 |
| None of these are necessary or acceptable. | 0.06% | 1 |
| Not a one of these!!!!!!!!!! | 0.06% | 1 |
| Too many restrictions ⁷ | 0.06% | 1 |
| none of the above will be affordable or feasible | 0.06% | 1 |
| undecided | 0.06% | 1 |
| All of the above + | 0.06% | 1 |
| None of these are justified. The government does this to look good. | 0.06% | 1 |
| Electricity grids can not supply.Disastrous. | 0.06% | 1 |
| none are acceptable | 0.06% | 1 |
| Climate change is propaganda . . . Remember this: the US sabotaged the Nord Stream pipeline emitting tons of pollution. | 0.06% | 1 |
| They are all ridiculous rules. rules are meant to be broken | 0.06% | 1 |
| The government performs poorly | 0.06% | 1 |
| unsure | 0.06% | 1 |
| Could care less | 0.06% | 1 |
| I don't think any of the above are acceptable....the one of them that would be the best would be 'All new residential buildings will be heated by electricity and not natural gas' sounds good but the electrical system would have to be upgraded. | 0.06% | 1 |
| NONE OF THEM. Climate change is a hoax the brainwashed have fed into! | 0.06% | 1 |
| I live in the USA and I do believe in a minimal life style. I also think going crazy with the EV's will destroy the earth faster because they are using a lot of resources to make and they are blowing up all over the place. | 0.06% | 1 |
| Government should stay out of personal | 0.06% | 1 |
| don't agree with any of it | 0.06% | 1 |
| Not sure | 0.06% | 1 |
| none of the above are acceptable as an only option | 0.06% | 1 |
| not Canadian | 0.06% | 1 |
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Our governments have signed accords that have created arbitrary deadlines for certain climate goals and the pressure to meet those goals is being passed down to ordinary citizens. At the dawn of the last century we switched from horses to automobiles without such pressures by allowing market forces to adapt and adopt technology. Here are some setbacks to our current climate strategy, mainly caused by the rush to meet deadlines. Which of them should be allowed more time and less government interference to produce a better product.
Siemens is a world leader in developing wind power generation but is almost bankrupt from expanding too soon only to have their turbines fail in real world use. https://electrek.co/2023/09/18/siemens-gamesas-onshore-wind-turbines/
17%
376 votes
My town switched a large portion of its public transit to battery powered buses. The buses need to run diesel engines to provide heat for passengers and do not have enough range for regular use. They are also very unreliable and the manufacturer is in receivership. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-buses-proterra-1.7035186
17%
368 votes
The Canadian government has committed $Billions to help develop battery manufacturing for Volkwagen and Northvolt. Meanwhile we have improvements in battery technology almost daily that could render these plants obsolete. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-canada-battery-plant-spending-raw-material-mining/
16%
347 votes
Almost all EV manufacturers are having difficulty selling inventory. The demand for EVs is nowhere near as big as the supply given the price to buy one and the current cost of the power to fuel them. They are also proving to be as impractical and unreliable as predicted. Banning gas powered vehicles won't fix this. https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/ev-inventories-hit-record-high-in-us-as-cars-pile-up-on-dealer-lots-1.2011841
20%
439 votes
There is a huge shortage of affordable rental accommodation in Canada and increasing the cost of manufacture to meet climate goals and increasing the cost of borrowing will not help build more of them. https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/douglas-todd-federal-liberals-are-directly-inflating-house-prices
19%
421 votes
Other (please specify)
1%
31 votes
Not Applicable
56%
1229 votes
- 40%
- N/A
- hoax, the whole thing
| Other Answers | Percentage | Votes |
|---|---|---|
| 0.61% | 12 | |
| They will all be funded so they can contribute to the election of politicians. | 0.05% | 1 |
| undecided | 0.05% | 1 |
| The owning of the electric vehicle is pricey but the upkeep is also costly. New tires every 20,000 miles because the batteries are so heavy. | 0.05% | 1 |
| All of them | 0.05% | 1 |
| All of them sound unsound financially for the common man | 0.05% | 1 |
| Driving range is not acceptable yet on battery powered vehicles, in time the batteries will go 700 miles or more. Also there aren't enough charging places and how much is it going to cost to charge your vehicle if traveling? | 0.05% | 1 |
| None of this will help ... and having huge snowstorms is proving battery operated buses, vehichles, bicycles and even heat pumps cannot work efficiently in the cold | 0.05% | 1 |
| How about we build the infrastructure first, then create a vehicle that won't use so many of the earth's resources, and possibly catch fire in your garage. A lot of testing should be done before these "vehicles" hit the market. | 0.05% | 1 |
| None should be allowed more time | 0.05% | 1 |
| LIVE IN USA | 0.05% | 1 |
| its all a scam | 0.05% | 1 |
| none of the above are feasible or true | 0.05% | 1 |
| not sure | 0.05% | 1 |
| No common sense from the Trudeau led Liberal government | 0.05% | 1 |
| None of the above, time is wasting. | 0.05% | 1 |
| ? | 0.05% | 1 |
| Money laundering transfer of taxpayer dollars. Follow the money | 0.05% | 1 |
| I believe climate change is inevitable and we need to adapt. | 0.05% | 1 |
| Stopping the production of ICE engines by 2035. | 0.05% | 1 |
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I think we need more encouragement to reduce our carbon footprint, rather than pressure to change our way of life to meet goals set by politicians without a mandate from us to support this agenda. Some 85,000 participants attended COP28 in December 2023 to share ideas, solutions, and build partnerships and coalitions. Almost all of them flew there. https://unfccc.int/news/cop28-agreement-signals-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-fossil-fuel-era These types of meetings should be virtual or not at all. Do you agree?
Yes
39%
861 votes
No
9%
197 votes
Undecided
20%
440 votes
Not Applicable
34%
748 votes
- Politicians meet, exchange ideas, making dumb ideas global.
- Spending unnecessary money, wasting time and more resources
- not a thing
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